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#1 Frodonator

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:34 AM

Hey gang, one of my bands is recording a split over the coming weeks, but unfortunately during this time our drummer is going to be away on his honeymoon so we're looking to track guitar/bass first, then drums and vocals when he comes back. I figure it's all going to be to a click, so there shouldn't be too much of an issue, but I was wondering if anyone has done this before and if there's any little tricks regarding going about it this way.

Thanks!
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#2 stalfos

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:41 AM

Doing this was one of the biggest headaches I ever caused myself. My advice is to wait.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:43 AM

Just make sure you tune your drums before you record, and that the room sounds good. Mics and converters aren't that important when your cymbals sound like a mushy headache because of awful acoustics.

How are you planning to record? (how many mics, one take/one section at the time etc etc)
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:01 AM

read tha thrad, axo.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:19 AM

I've done it once with my drummer, where I recorded a slush guitar with click, then he added drums. It was a bit of a hassle for him I believe. I guess he could never really relax.

If you can wait, you should. Adding drums first, with line in guitar/bass worked way better (went way faster also) for me. But maybe you're drummer is comfortable playing to a click, if so, do your shit first and let him add his last.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:43 AM

i thought this said "tracking drums fast"

HAH, YEAH RIGHT
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:44 AM

If you guys are rhythmically clockwork tight, then mayyybe.
But wait if you can.
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#8 Ender

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:44 AM

i highly recommend not doing drums last. its much easier to put guitars to drums than to put drums to guitars. most drummers can't ever feel comfortable playing strictly to a click or something that is precisely in time. my suggestion is to wait and record the drums first. there is a reason people have been recording drums first for years.
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#9 Frodonator

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 02:48 PM

unfortunately, time doesn't call for it. We're recording, then doing a mini tour for it with the other band and the only time we can do it before my other band records their next EP and goes on their tour is within the next 6 weeks. The idea of laying an initial version of the drum track first, then our real drummer coming in once we've done all the other parts and tracking over it has been contemplated, but we're all unsure as to how it will work out in the end.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 01:09 AM

Sorry, thought it said tracking drums at last :(

I only know of one record that was done with drums last, and that's Angels and Airwaves first album.

So yeah.
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#11 Frodonator

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 01:21 AM

Oh no. oh dear god no.

Either way we'll give it a try. It isn't costing us anything. If it fails it fails.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 01:26 AM

When i did it, and for similar reasons, I programmed the whole drum track note for note, with tempo changes and all, for the drummer to play along to, and in terms of recording it all went fine. Everything was in time pretty much, but it just sounded weird, didn't feel quite right. The guitars that I recorded to a click were just a lot straighter than the drums. It's easier for a guitarist to play along to a click. Ended up re-recording a bunch of stuff.

I only know of one record that was done with drums last, and that's Angels and Airwaves first album.

So yeah.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:38 PM

my experience tells me that songs feel the best when drums are recorded first




and (in my opinion) without a click
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#14 knight-errant

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:49 PM

yeah i always do drums first
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:50 PM

songs sound better when recorded live and performed right.

but to me at least a drummer and bassist need to lay down tracks together for most music.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:52 PM

Depends on the music and the musicians. We found that doing things separate worked for most tracks, except one, which we're redoing live.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 04:25 PM

yea great results can be achieved in all sorts of ways.

but i believe that there is a special "something" that can only be achieved by recording live or at least semi live.

and i rescind my comment about "all music"
i really meant most types of rock music.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 05:33 AM

it's not too bad if you stock up on migraine medication and keep all weapons or objects that can be used as weapons out of the studio

otherwise :enditall2:
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 10:46 AM

also
don't ever let a drummer convince you its going to be easier to just edit a bunch of takes together to make a composite track then record the rest of the album too that.

almost as bad.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 04:06 PM

we have tried to do this.

As said by nearly everyone. Our drummer had a fucking bastard of a time relaxing and getting 'the groove'..

we scratched the tracks and started from scratch with drums first.

other bands that do this (drums last)

Dream Theatre........
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